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<title>sane-devel: Re: forwarded message from Richard Stallman</title>
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<h1>Re: forwarded message from Richard Stallman</h1>
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<b>Henry Miller</b> (<a href="mailto:hank@black-hole.com"><i>hank@black-hole.com</i></a>)<br>
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<i>Sat, 21 Nov 1998 00:17:59 -0600 (CST)</i>
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On Fri, 20 Nov 1998, Oliver Rauch wrote:<br>
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<i>> hank wrote:</i><br>
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<i>> > What I'm trying to propose is that assuming someday we have a working MAC</i><br>
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<i>> > and Windows frontend, a manufacture can take our stuff, compile a backend</i><br>
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<i>> > for their new scanner, put their name on it (with credit to us in the</i><br>
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<i>> > about box) and ship drivers for all operating systems easially. If our</i><br>
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<i>> > backend is good enough, it would save them significant effort, while also</i><br>
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<i>> > giving them the ability to put "Network compatable" on the box.</i><br>
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<i>> tahts what they can do today, the only thing they have to do is make their</i><br>
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<i>> backend GPL!</i><br>
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<i>> So where is the problem?</i><br>
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See the discussion on parrell port scanners, that happened today. (more<br>
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or less) Some companies belive they ahve done something specail that they<br>
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don't want to tell us about. They won't release a GPL backend. I'd like<br>
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a backend of some sort at least, even if it is under a less then ideal<br>
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license. <br>
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<p>
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Remember we are dealing on several levels, there is a place for idealism,<br>
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but remember the real world is different. What it comes down to is<br>
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ultimatly, is where people want to take SANE. Where I would like to see<br>
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Sane go, is a eventially document the net part of it, submit it to the<br>
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IETF to become a RFC.<br>
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To do that, we need some support in the form of multipul implimentations<br>
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(I'm not sure exactly what is invloved, so I might not have the details<br>
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right) One way to encourage this is to get comercial venders to support<br>
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Sane. <br>
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The other thing I'd like to see Sane do is have lots of drivers for Unix.<br>
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We are close to a stanard for Unix (by default if nothing else, I'm not<br>
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aware of anything that supports as much as Sane) but we lack a lot of<br>
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drivers. Therefore I think we should consider the needs of the comercial<br>
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world with Sane. Again, this doen'st leave a perfect situation to the<br>
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license purists. <br>
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<p>
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There are other ideas. Sane won't go away (and it might become what I<br>
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want it to do anyway, the spec is free) with a GNU license, but it will<br>
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discourage comercial devolpment, if big companies think they will be<br>
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forced to release information they consider private to support Sane.<br>
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<p>
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A Gnu license does have advantages. Being distributed by teh Free<br>
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software foundation is one. Anouther is that we are not giving away our<br>
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work, letting unknowns modify it just enough that we are not compatable,<br>
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and putting their name on it. (if we can enfource that clause) There<br>
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are probably others.<br>
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In the end it comes down to the people who contributed. There are<br>
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advantages to everything, but if you didn't write the code you don't have<br>
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much a right to complain about the wrong decision. You can of course<br>
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comment on it, as I'm doing.<br>
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