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<H1>Re: Canoscan FB630U</H1>
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<STRONG>From:</STRONG> Marian Eichholz (<A HREF="mailto:marian.eichholz@freenet-ag.de?Subject=Re:%20Canoscan%20FB630U&In-Reply-To=<3AA3B57A.F184751D@freenet-ag.de>"><EM>marian.eichholz@freenet-ag.de</EM></A>)<BR>
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<STRONG>Date:</STRONG> Mon Mar 05 2001 - 07:49:14 PST
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Simon Heywood wrote:
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<P><EM>> Today I telephoned Canon UK, and was informed that Canon are not going to
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<EM>> release any technical specs at all, even with a NDA (what a surprise);
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<P>...Bummer. They are *really* unwilling to release information. Perhaps
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they made a *very* bad- design and are really afraid, that people might
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notice it.
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<P><EM>> however I was given the Managing Director's address for delivery of any
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<EM>> letters I might care to write explaining the situation. Does anyone have a
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<EM>> recommendation as to starting an online petition (and of course whether
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<EM>> you think this would be appropriate).
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<P>This is like my situation with Microtek. The engineer, who wrote to me,
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mentioned an NDA but knew in advance, that I would not accept it.
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<P>I tried/am trying to convince him, that I will publish a driver anyway,
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regardless of all possible problems and insane design due to lack of
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information, and that it will be the best for Microtek and us all, if
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they support it by specification disclosure, rather than to slow the
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progress down by obfuscation.
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<P>I really hope, that Microtek is smart and honest and discloses the
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scanner details. But I have no idea, if I used the right tone and
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temperament. But what did we had to lose?
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<P>NDAs are a real problem with the cheap "no api" solutions. The Microtek
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scanner - for example - uses a register transfer model over USB, fairly
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simple and straight. It saves the company lots of money, because they
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don't have to build a hardware abstraction (in terms of SCSI2 or so),
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but they have no chance to hide the device internals and I.P. in this
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model.
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<P><EM>> Canon claim they are "looking into" producing a driver package for Linux.
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<EM>> However, they were unable to tell me whether or not this would work in
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<EM>> conjunction with SANE, or in fact conform to any established Linux
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<EM>> standards.
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<P>Drivers by a vendor are good, but specification and/or drivers with
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source and an open license are really better. Just take NVIDIA as an
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example. It is nice, that they are building 3D-drivers. How nice it
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would be, if they worked reliable. :-(((
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<P>And there are "driver construction kids" for Linux out there, that
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really breach *any* kernel mode protection. Nobody should give vendors a
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chance to work with such blundering tools without beeing blamed for it.
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<P><EM>> In the meantime, I will investigate the possibilities offered by
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<EM>> "sniffing" the comms protocol and/or looking at the
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<EM>> <canonscanner.sourceforge.net> code. Time to read up on USB/SANE methinks.
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<P>I wish You all the best with it!
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Mit freundlichen Gruessen / Yours sincerely
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<P>Marian Eichholz (0211/53087-521)
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