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<STRONG>From:</STRONG> Bob Washburne (<A HREF="mailto:rcwash@concentric.net?Subject=Re:%20Which%20scanners%20REALLY%20provide%2036%20bit%20output?%20HP?&In-Reply-To=&lt;3A310ACA.E52F766D@concentric.net&gt;"><EM>rcwash@concentric.net</EM></A>)<BR>
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Paul Floyd wrote:
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<EM>&gt;
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<EM>&gt; Quoting Bob Washburne &lt;<A HREF="mailto:rcwash@concentric.net?Subject=Re:%20Which%20scanners%20REALLY%20provide%2036%20bit%20output?%20HP?&In-Reply-To=&lt;3A310ACA.E52F766D@concentric.net&gt;">rcwash@concentric.net</A>&gt;:
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<EM>&gt; What are you going to be doing with these images? Visualizing them
</EM><BR>
<EM>&gt; won't be easy (they're certainly well beyond the scope of most
</EM><BR>
<EM>&gt; monitors and printers). Unless you're doing research or doing high
</EM><BR>
<EM>&gt; quality commercial printing, then 1200bpi/36bpp is overkill.
</EM><BR>
<P>You are correct. 1200bpi/36bpp is overkill for most visual
<BR>
applications.
<BR>
<P>My application is archival. I have a collection of old (about a
<BR>
century) documents and photos. They will not be around much longer.
<BR>
While it may be impractical to preserve the original document (these are
<BR>
family records, not national treasures) it should be possible to scan
<BR>
them and preserve their information. Once digitised, they can be copied
<BR>
ad infinitum with no loss in quality. CD-R's are now cheap and DVD-R's
<BR>
will soon follow.
<BR>
<P>The images are of borderline quality. Text is sometimes difficult to
<BR>
read. Photos are blurred or smeared. Everything has taken on the
<BR>
patina of age. There are some effective software packages out there for
<BR>
image enhancement. They can remove red-eye, interpret text and
<BR>
generally clean things up. Thirty, fifty years from now I'll bet that
<BR>
they will perform magic - removing coffee stains, filling in destroyed
<BR>
areas, sharpening a blurred photo.
<BR>
<P>But any software enhansement package must deal with the raw data and the
<BR>
originals will no longer be around to rescan. So it is imperative that
<BR>
I extract as much data as possible now while I still can. Ideally, I
<BR>
would like to scan photos down to the emulsion resolution which would
<BR>
represent all the information possible. For 19th century photography I
<BR>
believe 1200 dpi comes very close to this.
<BR>
<P>So I wish to scan at resolutions greater then I can see so that future
<BR>
software will have the additional information needed to make
<BR>
enhansements which I CAN see.
<BR>
<P>And that is part of my fustration. I can't *see* if my scanner is doing
<BR>
its job. I must trust that I am getting additional information and not,
<BR>
as you correctly indicated, just four more bits of noise. This was one
<BR>
of the draws of the HP 5370C. It claimed to be using 42 bpp internally
<BR>
and outputting a clean 36 bpp. But the software which comes with the
<BR>
scanner is only interested in visual effects.
<BR>
<P>Which all leads back to my original question: does anybody have
<BR>
experiance with a scanner which shows that it *really* does provide
<BR>
these specs?
<BR>
<P>Thanks much.
<BR>
<P>Bob Washburne
<BR>
<P><EM>&gt;
</EM><BR>
<EM>&gt; Regards
</EM><BR>
<EM>&gt; Paul
</EM><BR>
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