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<h1>Re: Starting a discussion about SANE and TWAIN...</h1>
<b>Oliver Rauch</b> (<a href="mailto:oliver.rauch@Wolfsburg.DE"><i>oliver.rauch@Wolfsburg.DE</i></a>)<br>
<i>Sun, 15 Aug 1999 18:51:05 +0200</i>
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Milon Firikis wrote:<br>
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<i>&gt;</i><br>
<i>&gt; I think you are wrong on that:</i><br>
<i>&gt; In win32 with the functions</i><br>
<i>&gt; [_open,_pipe_,_close,DuplicateHandle,_open_osfhandle,_dup,_dup2]</i><br>
<i>&gt; you can get the exact same functionality as with the POSIX ones [open,</i><br>
<i>&gt; close, pipe, fcntl, dup, dup2].</i><br>
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Ok.<br>
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<i>&gt;</i><br>
<i>&gt; For all the other matters, I can' comment. Especially I don't understand</i><br>
<i>&gt; why you would like to turn your xsane into a TWAIN backend. Anyway, I am</i><br>
<i>&gt; not questioning you, because I am aware that I am missing some critical</i><br>
<i>&gt; details, and I am taking for granted that you don't :).</i><br>
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I do not want to make xsane only a TWAIN backend.<br>
The point is:<br>
I think it is good to have a TWAIN standard on unix systems<br>
and I want to support this idea.<br>
The twain people want to use the drivers we already have written,<br>
so from the view of sane we only need to add a TWAIN interface<br>
to one or all graphical sane frontends.<br>
So I want to add the TWAIN interface to xsane, that is comparable<br>
to the gimp-plugin mode of xsane.<br>
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<i>&gt; As a side note, I hate to fire up false alarms, but reading through the</i><br>
<i>&gt; e-mail chain (TWAIN--SANE) so far, I get the feeling that:</i><br>
<i>&gt;</i><br>
<i>&gt; 1) TWAIN people haven't realized that SANE is open source in general,</i><br>
<i>&gt; and GPL in particular</i><br>
<i>&gt; 2) They think that they need special permission to get the code</i><br>
<i>&gt; 3) They are not aware for the two TWAIN frontend to SANE attempts. Maybe</i><br>
<i>&gt; they should take a look at:</i><br>
<i>&gt; <a href="http://www.sunshinecomputing.com/winsane/">http://www.sunshinecomputing.com/winsane/</a></i><br>
<i>&gt; <a href="http://integramicro.com/winsane/">http://integramicro.com/winsane/</a></i><br>
<i>&gt;</i><br>
<i>&gt; Finally WinZip is the standard (shareware) program for decompression in</i><br>
<i>&gt; windows world. It handles greatly *.tar.gz. So if they download</i><br>
<i>&gt; ghostcript/ghostview for win32 they could then read the SANE Standard</i><br>
<i>&gt; document.</i><br>
<i>&gt;</i><br>
<i>&gt; Since you are our ambassador to the TWAIN-land, by the blessing of our</i><br>
<i>&gt; leader (David) I think you should make sure that I am wrong and the</i><br>
<i>&gt; TWAIN people are aware of the programs and documents I mentioned.</i><br>
<i>&gt; Otherwise I find the lack of knowledge about them a very good base for</i><br>
<i>&gt; mutual misunderstanding :-/.</i><br>
<i>&gt;</i><br>
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I think you understood here something wrong.<br>
The idea the TWAIN people have is to make availabel a TWAIN<br>
standard on unix systems to make it easy for application (like Photoshop)<br>
programmers to make a unix version of their windows/Mac software.<br>
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Of course they can take the code of us and use it, but what they want<br>
is that the sane team and the twain team do this togehter!<br>
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To get a sane frontend on windows is only a little side effect of this<br>
idea.<br>
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Bye<br>
Oliver<br>
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