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<title>sane-devel: Re: HP Photosmart R032</title>
<h1>Re: HP Photosmart R032</h1>
<b>john allen pitney</b> (<a href="mailto:pitney@students.uiuc.edu"><i>pitney@students.uiuc.edu</i></a>)<br>
<i>Mon, 15 Mar 1999 15:54:08 -0600</i>
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<i>&gt; Hi,</i><br>
<i>&gt; </i><br>
<i>&gt; I am wondering what HP has done now to the Photosmart. The behaviour</i><br>
<i>&gt; should be</i><br>
<i>&gt; that it scans during moving slides into and out of the scanner. For the</i><br>
<i>&gt; preview</i><br>
<i>&gt; it should scan while moving into. Then you should be able to select the</i><br>
<i>&gt; area</i><br>
<i>&gt; which you want to scan, then for the real scan it is moving outside.</i><br>
<i>&gt; Anything else</i><br>
<i>&gt; makes no sense.</i><br>
<i>&gt; Please try the following: Switch the scanner off and on, start</i><br>
<i>&gt; xscanimage</i><br>
<i>&gt; and immediately change the exposure time to "off". Then try to aquire a</i><br>
<i>&gt; preview</i><br>
<i>&gt; and to do a scan. Does it also scan only when moving outside ?</i><br>
<i>&gt; If so, you should try how the scanner works on Windows. For the same</i><br>
<i>&gt; behaviour</i><br>
<i>&gt; return the scanner to your dealer.</i><br>
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I should have mentioned it in my first email--in the HP Windows software,<br>
the PhotoSmart (PS) does as expected: it generates a preview as the media goes <br>
in, and does the final scan as the media comes back out. I'm not sure<br>
why xscanimage is not doing this. I'll investigate further tonight.<br>
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The PS also behaves itself when driven (in Windows) by PScan32 and by <br>
VueSmart (VueScan now?), two third-party programs for driving the PS. <br>
VueSmart is a shareware program that acquires the 10-bit data from the PS <br>
and preforms orange mask removal (for negatives) and gamma correction <br>
on that, before downsampling to 8-bit output. It does a terrific job, <br>
and even has canned calibration curves for well over 100 different <br>
types of film (Kodak Gold 100, Fuji Reala, etc.). <br>
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(I've been using the scanner in Windows--with HP software--for several <br>
months now with success. I just want to run it in Linux using SANE now, <br>
and have the opportunity due to the new SCSI card.) <br>
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<i>&gt; &gt; - The vertical (y) postion of the slide seems to slip by about 1mm each</i><br>
<i>&gt; &gt; time the slide is fed in and out. In other words, if I draw a crop box in</i><br>
<i>&gt; &gt; the preview window, I get a same-size box in the output, but it is of</i><br>
<i>&gt; &gt; a rectangle shifted downward in y 1mm or so. Subsequent feeds shift it</i><br>
<i>&gt; &gt; more each time, as if the backend or the scanner are loosing track of</i><br>
<i>&gt; &gt; where the slide is physically.</i><br>
<i>&gt; &gt; </i><br>
<i>&gt; </i><br>
<i>&gt; As from above I suppose that the slide is removed from the scanner</i><br>
<i>&gt; between preview and scan. So there is no possibility to get a correct</i><br>
<i>&gt; placed box.</i><br>
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The slide isn't completely ejected from the scanner between scans--if I <br>
hit the "unload media" button in xscanimage, the slide comes all the way <br>
out and is "released" by the PS's rollers. <br>
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<i>&gt; Firmware version R032 seems to have no support for tone maps (at least</i><br>
<i>&gt; greyscale tonemap which are used with firmware version R029 for gamma</i><br>
<i>&gt; correction).</i><br>
<i>&gt; I can show you some places in the hp-backend where you can try to add</i><br>
<i>&gt; those code for testing. I can not test 30bit support on my own</i><br>
<i>&gt; Photosmart,</i><br>
<i>&gt; because R029 does only support 24 bit.</i><br>
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I would be very interested in trying this. Over the weekend, I played <br>
with some code for doing PNM with a MAXVAL == 1023. There is an <br>
assert depth == 8 somewhere in scanimage, so it's not quite ready for <br>
10-bit PNM output. Is that correct?<br>
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<i>&gt; &gt; Are there</i><br>
<i>&gt; &gt; any docs from HP specific to the Photosmart?</i><br>
<i>&gt; &gt; </i><br>
<i>&gt; </i><br>
<i>&gt; No. And if they have documentation, it must be specific to the firmware.</i><br>
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True. I wonder how the authors of PScan32 and of VueSmart came up with the<br>
proper SCL codes for driving the PS. Maybe I could learn something by <br>
running those programs in debug mode and checking the log of SCL commands. <br>
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John<br>
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