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| <title>sane-devel: Re: Sane drivers</title>
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| <h1>Re: Sane drivers</h1>
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| <b>Tripp Lilley</b> (<a href="mailto:tlilley@perspex.com"><i>tlilley@perspex.com</i></a>)<br>
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| <i>Fri, 2 Apr 1999 20:21:23 -0500 (EST)</i>
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| <li> <b>Next message:</b> <a href="0036.html">David Mosberger-Tang: "Re: Internationalized Sane"</a>
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| <li> <b>Previous message:</b> <a href="0034.html">Hugo van der Kooij: "Re: Sane drivers"</a>
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| On Sat, 3 Apr 1999, Hugo van der Kooij wrote:<br>
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| <i>> We don't sign non-disclosure papers. This is a open-source project. So in</i><br>
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| <i>> the end you loose as we now now that your scanners should be</i><br>
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| <i>> avoided as your company does not support open-source.</i><br>
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| <i>> </i><br>
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| <i>> I do fear you have a lot to learn yet about linux and open-source.</i><br>
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| <p>
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| And we, as a community, have a lot to learn yet about how to best convince<br>
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| people to join us. I believe we will make much more headway with Microtek<br>
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| if we can explain to them the benefits of releasing driver details without<br>
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| the encumberance of non-disclosure agreements. If we can collect<br>
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| statistics about our users, testimonials as to why they use brand X<br>
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| scanners with SANE, and what they'd ideally use, if drivers existed, we<br>
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| can do more to sway Microtek and others.<br>
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| <p>
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| It won't do to simply say "your loss" and move on, as tempting as this<br>
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| might be. The bottom line is that we /all/ lose when someone decides not<br>
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| to play with us. The more hardware and software there is that "plays nice"<br>
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| with Free (and Open Source) Software, the better off the whole situation<br>
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| is. Hardware vendors sell more hardware, users get more done with<br>
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| functional software, consultants get paid obscene amounts of money to make<br>
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| the world go round (as they do now, only with better toys to make it go<br>
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| round), and full-time software developers get paid by consultants who have<br>
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| the vision to understand that without them, it's back to fighting BSODs.<br>
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| <p>
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| But in order for this vision to come to be, we must unlearn many of our<br>
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| divisive, confrontational ways, and focus on how to constructively and<br>
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| convincingly lure new blood into our world.<br>
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| <p>
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| Or, as my mom is so find of saying, "You catch more flies with honey than<br>
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| with vinegar". Let's try not to scrutinize the analogy too far, though, as<br>
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| we all know that flies /really/ love a steaming pile of horseshit.<br>
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| <p>
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| So, to Microtek, I'd like to extend an invitation to join us. We have a<br>
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| growing community of avid users, many of whom work for free as advocates<br>
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| for products that "play well" in the Open Source Sandbox. Of course, many<br>
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| of those advocates are even now recommending HP and UMAX scanners, in<br>
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| spite of how they might feel about Microtek hardware. I, for one, was<br>
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| consistenly impressed with the Microtek scanners we had at a multimedia<br>
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| lab where I once worked, but run a 100% Linux/GNU/Open Source shop now.<br>
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| <p>
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| Perhaps we might together investigate your company's reasons for requiring<br>
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| an NDA, and perhaps break down a few of the fears driving that<br>
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| requirement. Many folks are finding that the protection they seek in<br>
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| obscurity can better be had through open discourse. As the security world<br>
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| is wont to say, "Security through obscurity is no security at all".<br>
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| <p>
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| <pre>
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| --
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|    Tripp Lilley + Innovative Workflow Engineering, Inc. + (<a href="mailto:tripp@iweinc.com">tripp@iweinc.com</a>)
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|   "You know, this /is/ kinda like the community room in a mental ward."
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|    Mary Papadopoulos (roommate), commenting on our office/rec room
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