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								<title>sane-devel: Re: UMAX 610P and (in)SANE</title>
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								<h1>Re: UMAX 610P and (in)SANE</h1>
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								<b>Jonathan Buzzard</b> (<a href="mailto:jab@hex.prestel.co.uk"><i>jab@hex.prestel.co.uk</i></a>)<br>
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								<i>Mon, 14 Sep 1998 20:17:07 +0100</i>
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								<li> <b>Next message:</b> <a href="0101.html">Oliver Rauch: "Re: UMAX 610P and (in)SANE"</a>
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								<li> <b>Previous message:</b> <a href="0099.html">Kevin Charter: "Re: Little problem with Agfa SnapScan"</a>
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								<li> <b>Maybe in reply to:</b> <a href="0077.html">Roy-Anders Larsen: "UMAX 610P and (in)SANE"</a>
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								<li> <b>Next in thread:</b> <a href="0101.html">Oliver Rauch: "Re: UMAX 610P and (in)SANE"</a>
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								<a href="mailto:royalarsen@yahoo.com">royalarsen@yahoo.com</a> said:<br>
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								<i>> Of course on the 'official' SANE web pages, it is stated that there </i><br>
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								<i>> is no support for UMAX parallel port scanners.  Then I find some </i><br>
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								<i>> messages that some people are trying to make a backend themselves. </i><br>
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								That would have been me.<br>
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								<i>> Then I find some messages (www.dejanews.com) that some people state </i><br>
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								<i>> that the UMAX parallel port scanners are supported by SANE (???). </i><br>
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								I very much doubt that they are correct.<br>
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								<i>> Of course, I should probably believe the official pages, and not the </i><br>
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								<i>> messages individuals send, but since I have an Astra 610P and I need </i><br>
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								<i>> to use it with linux, I choose to be optimistic. </i><br>
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								You choose wrong.<br>
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								UMAX have repeatedly refused to give me the necessary programming<br>
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								information for the parallel port protocol The reason given to me was<br>
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								that the only documentation on the parallel port protocol is combined<br>
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								with the documentation on the design of the ASIC. Umax are under the<br>
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								delusional belief that their ASIC is something special and the design<br>
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								needs to be protected. Why anyone would want to copy a design that only<br>
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								uses only SPP and EPP modes (that's right no PS/2 or ECP) is beyond me.<br>
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								There was also some suggestion that the ASIC design may have been licesened<br>
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								to other scanner manufacturers (more fool them).<br>
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								The scanner can be used in a limited extent under Wine, and should not be<br>
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								too hard to reverse engineer. There are only seven routines in the driver<br>
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								that do any sort of communication with the scanner and I had little trouble<br>
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								working out the SPP ones (there are 14 in reality 7 SPP and 7 corresponding<br>
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								EPP ones). It is just a case of understanding these and putting them<br>
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								back together.<br>
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								I was this time last year working on reverse engineering this protocol,<br>
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								however this work has been indefinately suspended since the begining of<br>
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								February this year. The reason being that whilst working on reverse<br>
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								engineering the protocol I had a flash of inspiration that lead me to<br>
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								workout a much longer term reverse engineering project I have had, namely<br>
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								being able to set the battery saving options on Toshiba laptops (ie. a<br>
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								Linux port of MaxTime).<br>
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								This has progressed to the point now where there are three laptops in<br>
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								transit from Toshiba Germany to me as I type this, for testing purposes.<br>
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								When I have finished with these I can return them and get some more etc.<br>
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								This is likely to keep me busy indefinately, and because of this I am<br>
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								likely to flog my scanner on to a friend who uses Windows and get a<br>
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								different scanner that does work under Linux (anyone tried getting the<br>
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								docs for the HP 4100 USB scanner?).<br>
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								JAB.<br>
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								Jonathan A. Buzzard                 Email: <a href="mailto:jab@hex.prestel.co.uk">jab@hex.prestel.co.uk</a>
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								<li> <b>Next message:</b> <a href="0101.html">Oliver Rauch: "Re: UMAX 610P and (in)SANE"</a>
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								<li> <b>Previous message:</b> <a href="0099.html">Kevin Charter: "Re: Little problem with Agfa SnapScan"</a>
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								<li> <b>Maybe in reply to:</b> <a href="0077.html">Roy-Anders Larsen: "UMAX 610P and (in)SANE"</a>
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								<li> <b>Next in thread:</b> <a href="0101.html">Oliver Rauch: "Re: UMAX 610P and (in)SANE"</a>
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